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Daniel 4......
by Stromboli in
1. watchtower
2. bible
let's assume that the 70 year prophecy will be confirmed by all archeologists and geremia 29:10 is correctly rendered "at babilonia" so 607-537 is fine.

when we get to daniel 4 we have the dream and the tree is compared to the king nebuchadnezzar.

the wt confirms this and all is fine.
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Jude and 1 Enoch
by Leolaia in
1. watchtower
2. bible
use of 1 enoch elsewhere in jude.

jude 4 = 1 enoch 48:8-10, 81:1-2, 108:6-7 .

jude 6 = 1 enoch 10:4-12, 12:4, 15:3-7 .
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eschatological expectancy causes tiredness
by stillajwexelder in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
an elder confesssed to me the other week that they had an elders meeting and the topic was rasied about how tired the brothers were.

he said "quite frankly, the brothers expected armageddon a long time ago and they are just exhausted".

i then enquired of him "do you think the wtbts keeping us in a permanent state of eschatological expectancy causes strain and stress and tiredness - he said yes.
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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie
by Farkel in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
it was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.

he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.

up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.
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The biggest issue the Society has to face.
by nicolaou in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
not paedophilia - as much as that must be dealt with.

not blood, shunning, corruption, failed prophecy, bunked chronology, the internet or u.n type scandals.. the biggest issue/threat the watchtower faces is authority.. hold up any other issue before a true jw and the shutters come down.

because they have listened to 'authority'.
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Russia - Still King of the North
by proplog2 in
1. jw
2. friends
when the berlin wall came down, even before the offical dissolution of the soviet union, the watchtower was quick to back away from the idea that russia was the king of the north.

nothing really changed.

true, there is an appearance of friendship and cooperation between russia and the us but russia is the one country that can totally destroy the usa.
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How to win popular concensus with "expertise"!
by Utopian Reformist in
1. jw
2. friends
another tool in the arsenal of zionist-democracy!.

the delphi technique .

how to achieve a workable consensus within time limits.
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THE DILEMMA FACING APOSTATES
by You Know in
1. watchtower
2. bible
the dilemma facing apostate jehovahs witnesses, or apostate dubs, as i have dubbed them, (no pun intended) is the very fact of their seeming success.

one of the great ironies of the apostate movement, that presumptuously boasts of "know the truth about the truth," is that apostates themselves are bound by the watchtower's own interpretive shortcomings, and hence are massively ignorant of jehovahs judicial decisions regarding his organization.

in that the presumption in operation is that if enough scandal and error can be brought to light regarding the governing body, the watchtower society's teachings, as well as individual jehovah's witnesses, then that somehow means that jehovah's witnesses have no connection with jehovah god.
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Documentation on Russell's Grave
by teenyuck in
1. jw
2. friends
i know that there were some pics of russels grave posted sometime back.

does anyone know the link or where i can find some info on russell?

i am trying to send this to my mother.
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Welcome !
by Simon in
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2. friends
welcome to the newest jehovah's witness discussion forum on the net.. please register so that you can post to the forum and turn this into a welcoming place for other brothers and sisters online